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Question 13: What is CANA's position on WO?
For an excellent, thoughtful and sober assessment of the difficulties currently emerging from the Convocation of Anglicans in North America, please visit Apologetics Galore and read the well-presented post by its blogger, DH. In light of the historic move on the part of The Falls Church, Truro Church and 13 other former parishes in Virginia of the Episcopal Church which have already voted or are in the process of voting to separate from TEC, it is imperative that the serious theological, sacramental and ecclesiological issues at stake be addressed openly and deliberately in the days ahead. The role of the Covenant Union between the Church of Nigeria and the APA/REC is not at all clear at the moment, as CANA appears to have moved forward in allowing purportedly-ordained women to function within its jurisdiction. Will the Covenant Union be upheld? Will the proper consultation and discussion to which the Covenant Union commits both CANA and the APA/REC take place? Only time will tell.
Let us pray that the errors made and the theological novelties promoted in the Anglican Communion over the past thirty years will not be repeated yet again in this situation. Let us pray for the unity and fidelity of the Anglican expression of the Holy Catholic Church.
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In the CANA news conference linked above, you will discover that the CANA-sponsored mission of Christ the Redeemer, Centreville, Virginia, has as its interim rector a lady who purports to have received priestly ordination, one who we presume has now been licenced to function sacramentally in CANA. The Falls Church of CANA already has on its pastoral staff a lady who has undergone the rite of presbyteral ordination. Problematic indeed...
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9 comments:
I believe we are now effectively "out of communion" with CANA. We need this issue to be addressed.
What has and does concern me about Anglicanism is the lack of concensus on such simple issues so as WO. It seems very protestant go against 2,000 years of Holy Tradition.
I would say that until the 1930s the C of E and her daughter churches were in line with a Western Orthodox mindset (with a distinctly Augustinian ethos); as one Russian Orthodox bishop of the period put it "There is no reason the Church of England is not an Orthodox Church."
Now the wheels have fallen off and every branch of Anglicanism wishes to do a "new thing." So many Anglicans/Episcopalians now leaving ECUSA want to recreate their own church of 15 minutes ago (women priests and all). They can't stand the 1928 Eucharist and its emphasis on sin and repentance--they want the 1979 BCP they are used to.
This is not the "protestantism" of the Anglicanism of old (which was to be "protestant and reformed according to the teachings of the ancient Catholic Church)--this is failing to grasp what is the disease affecting ECUSA; it is not gay clergy--it is a rejection of the Scriptures and catholicity.
Amen to the Anglican Cleric!
The thing that strikes me as odd about this whole thing is that conservative evangelical US episcopalians, like Minns and the Truro Church, etc., complain about the arrogance of ECUSA in alienating other Anglicans and Christians by their support of homosexuality. But what THEY are doing is just as arrogant to their own ecumenical partners (the APA and REC)! Their attitude seems to be, "Who cares what they think." It's especially arrogant when the APA and REC are so much larger and well established than CANA. Very strange indeed.
First I want to make it clear that the following is my own opinion and is not necessarily that of the my Parish or the Reformed Episcopal Church.
Having said that, I have been VERY concerned with the goings on of CANA. First, since Nigeria has this concordat with the REC/APA why can't the churches just come under either the REC or APA? Why is a "missionary bishop" required in a territory which has (at my count) at least 10 bishops from among the APA and REC IN PLACE?
Something else that concerns me is that, in a document from the Falls Church explaining all this, they mentioned their (CANA's) partnership with the REC and APA. This was only a few lines from their announcement that they would accept Woman Priests!!
As far as I know, the APA and REC signed a concordat with the Church of Nigeria (WHICH DOES NOT ORDAIN WOMEN) not with CANA which does.
This whole mess needs Episcopal (as in Bishops not the apostate Church) attention immediately.
I have said enough and anything more I might say could go "beyond the pale."
I want to echo everything that Father Gordon said.
Chip in Fairfax Virginia
Chip,
My feelings exactly. And I will make my feelings known to my bishop after Christmas (don't want to ruin the holyday).
We are in "full communion" with Nigeria, which means an assumption that clergy can be transfered to and from the jurisdictions in question. The presence of female clergy under the CANA label makes the communion between us "impaired" at best.
++Akinola has decided to walk and act apart from the REC and the APA, I think it is best that we are truthful about that reality.
The idea that we are now in communion with the ECUSA parishes from 10 minutes ago (with 79 BCPs and female clergy) is prima fascia absurd (perhaps we are in "common cause" on many issues, but we are not in communion with them).
Chip, cry out clear and loud, for it is your duty as an orthodox Anglican to hold your bishops accountable.
My take on the Truro and Falls Church crowds is that they are little more than evangelical protestants dressed up in clerical garb.
In the press briefing produced by AnglicanTV an linked on CaNN, I was struck by the way in which Bishop Mynns (sp?) pointed out that the first Anglican service in America (1607) was held without priests or bishops. The way in which he said it left me with the impression that he was saying that was a good thing.
There was a big deal made about the covenant aspects of the relationship between the three bodies (REC/APA/CofN) as opposed to a mere common cause relationship. It seems to me that calling the faulting party to account in this covenanted context would be helpful.
"Akinola has decided to walk and act apart from the REC and the APA, I think it is best that we are truthful about that reality."
I kind of wonder how much of this is really Akinola (or even his church as a whole) and not actually some Americans in CANA who have convinced the CofN authorities that context dictates this innovation or some other garbage of this sort. It all goes back to the arrogance issue of not recognizing that they carry the TEC disease.
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